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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 12, 2017 18:06:35 GMT -5
astree, I know you are against doing external research, and I can see your point. There is a lot of information and it is exhausting to do research on every word/item/place, etc... that appears designed to fit into the story. But just as an example, using the hijacking to Cuba and NASA, two of the topics you chose yourself in your post above, I can show you that both of these are related New Orleans. The skyjacking story is a true story, and if you read the following article, you will see that there was a scheduled stop in New Orleans: www.slate.com/articles/life/history/features/2013/skyjacker_of_the_day/thomas_robinson_age_16_hijacked_a_plane_to_protest_cuba_s_emigration_policy.htmlThere is a NASA facility in New Orleans called the Michoud Facility: www.nasa.gov/michoudNeither of these took a lot of time to find. Is it a coincidence that both of these relate to New Orleans? I don't know. I would think that the Tommy Robinson story was definitely something meant for us to research. I have found other things that I believe we were meant to research too. So eventhough it is exhausting to look into the odds and ends mentioned in the text, things that appear to have been made to fit into the story, I think we were meant to do so.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 12, 2017 17:46:03 GMT -5
"Which hunt?" That is a very good question.
There is so much information in the book that seems totally unrelated. But when you do a bit of research into things, and something in particular just keeps popping up over and over in the most unexpected places, you know that there are overlaps, and that all of the information can not be just coincidence.
And sometimes when you dig deeper into a subject, just when you think you are going to abandon that rabbit hole, you find something that is so appropriate and fitting, you are convinced you were meant to find it.
I think some of the digging I have done, even on ONE subject, will reveal information intended for two or more of the hunts. That is why sorting this all out is so difficult. Pete says there is a way to differentiate between the 3 hunts. I haven't figured that out.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 12, 2017 17:22:57 GMT -5
That's how it works, isn't it?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 12, 2017 17:15:30 GMT -5
1of628, I agree with you in your assessment that Pete included in the book, SOME information for a second hunt, but that a new chapter would be released later. I think there is a hint to this new chapter on page 25 of BTaB. When discussing Sue's belt, it is written:
"Perhaps we'll examine the Mystery of the Belted Rubies in another book, or perhaps later in this one."
I think Pete made a lot of mistakes in designing this hunt, and placing three hunts in one book is the worst mistake of all. It wasn't announced that there are three hunts in the book until just recently, and there is no mention of it in the book itself. So hunters went about trying to solve the hunt using clues for what are possibly three hunts to create a solve for only one hunt. There have been hunters who have gone BOTG and wasted time and money. I find it morally wrong for the writer to do this when all along he was knowingly deceiving people. He knew that his readers were traveling and searching for one location based on clues for three different locations.
Pete claims there are ways to differentiate the three hunts. Now that we know this, I haven't been able to find anything to suggest a differentiation, let alone that there are multiple hunts in the book.
I find myself wondering why Pete decided to come out with the information about the three hunts at this time. The only answer I can come up with is that sales are low. I know this to be a fact because in his most recent video (where he is standing outside among trees), he tells the viewers that he has not made a profit. He asks the viewers to spread the word about his hunt and try to get people to buy his book! I think his original plans were to announce an extra hunt after the first one was solved.
1of628, I am enjoying this hunt too, but I have my reservations about the way it was designed and handled. I could list many more things that make me uncomfortable about this hunt, but I won't, at least not in this thread!
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 11, 2017 9:26:15 GMT -5
We have learned from Mike's interview (thanks, Mike) that there are actually three different hunts in this book. Let's discuss!
What are the hunts? Where do you think they are in the book?
Can you differentiate one hunt from another? Pete said you can. How?
What are the potential problems with this?
Was it wise for Pete to announce this before the hunt was solved? When do you think he was planning to announce that there were three hunts in the book? Did something change his mind? Should we have known this from the start?
Thoughts anyone?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 11, 2017 9:12:13 GMT -5
Astree, just to be clear, let me ask this question. Is this list (and any future lists that you may add to this thread), a list of items/words/etc... that you are SOLELY taking from the BOOK with no outside research, to draw connections from, or codes? Just from the book?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 11, 2017 9:01:27 GMT -5
Astree,
I agree that there are open-ended questions from the book that one can research on outside sources. However, I feel this was the intention of the author. This is dangerous to treasure hunters for many reasons. It can lead down rabbit holes, and treasure hunters can use information to fit their solves. Both will result in time wasted and incorrect or no solves.
But as I said, I believe the author wants us to look into the hints he has scattered throughout the book. I think this is a very poor design for a treasure hunt. This hunt has been flawed from the beginning. But that is a subject for a whole other thread. Eventhough I disagree with the way this hunt was set up, I have made some progress, and a lot of that progress has been from discovering information about things in the book that I would not have know about if I didn't google it on the internet.
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Tea
Jun 11, 2017 8:44:03 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 11, 2017 8:44:03 GMT -5
Interesting. Thanks for your input astree.
I have been doing internet searches on a lot of things an the book, and unfortunately, I think we were meant to do so. It is extremely time consuming and never-ending, as you can imagine.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 10, 2017 23:31:28 GMT -5
Did you know that Prince's real name is Prince Rogers NELSON?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 10, 2017 23:30:05 GMT -5
On page 45, Fred and Myrtle are mentioned. There is a famous Fred and Myrtle "Flutey". So I too think we are looking for a flute.
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Tea
Jun 10, 2017 23:25:51 GMT -5
Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 10, 2017 23:25:51 GMT -5
On page 9, we have this:
Forget about all mass market teas in a bag. Especially Lipton. Actually, forget about any tea in a bag. Why is it centered like it is? It looks like a poem.
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 10, 2017 23:21:34 GMT -5
On page 123, we have the "flying Angela" and the "Whomping Willow", both of which are Harry Potter references.
Do we have any Harry Potter fans here?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 10, 2017 23:17:52 GMT -5
Hemmingway is mentioned on page 28. Any ideas?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 10, 2017 23:16:08 GMT -5
Page 173 Hamlet
I felt like Hamlet, “I am but mad north-north-west. When the wind is southerly, I know a hawk from a handsaw.”
After digging a bit, I found that there could be at least three different interpretations of this line from Shakespeare’s Hamlet.
On the surface it seems like Hamlet is referring to his melancholy growing worse when the wind comes out of the north; his madness worsens when the wind is northerly, but when it is southerly, he grows clear-headed.
On another level it could be in reference to the 1578 expedition to discover the Northwest Passage to Cathy, or China. Martin Frobisher had lost three thousand pounds that he had invested in the expedition, an act of financial madness.
Lastly, handsaw is probably a misspelling for heronsaw, or hernsaw, types of birds. And this meaning is that birds generally fly with the wind, and when the wind is northerly, the sun is in the human’s eye and one can not distinguish one bird from another. If the wind is southerly, then the sun is to the person’s back, and he can easily distinguish the birds.
Could this have something to do with looking for the treasure?
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Post by GeneticBlend on Jun 10, 2017 23:11:30 GMT -5
On page 119, there is a quote from Charles Dickens. Here it is in its entirety:
“Father Time is not always a hard parent, and, though he tarries for none of his children, often lays his hand lightly upon those who have used him well; making them old men and women inexorably enough, but leaving their hearts and spirits young and in full vigor. With such people the gray head is but the impression of the old fellow's hand in giving them his blessing, and every wrinkle but a notch in the quiet calendar of a well-spent life.”
The quote is about Father Time. In BTaB, they mention that the man that sells them the Butterscotch RV reminds them of this quote.
This quote is from a character, Barnaby Rudge in the book, Barnaby Rudge: A Tale of the Riots of Eighty. It was published 1840-1841. Could this be the novel from the 1800s that Pete Bissonette mentioned in his facebook post?
Barnaby Rudge is a historical novel, and is about the Gordon Riots of 1780. The Gordon Riots of 1780 began as an anti-Catholic protest in London, but they were also due to falling wages and unemployment.
How do you think this is important to BTaB?
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